This last couple of years I've bought some langstroth kit and really like the short luggs, in fact im quite a fan of the box in general, so I thought I would try a commercial box or two as its a traditional British box. The short lugs are just a good bonus before I even start. I agree about dn4 and dn5. Unnecessary expense i reckon. However i bought my first packs of manley frames this year just to try. They certainly look different.
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