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Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:08 Jul 2021, 18:02
by Patrick
😁😁 Always been a bit of a Space Cadet Alfred!

Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:02 Aug 2021, 20:58
by Bobbysbees
Oh what a corker I heard today on another forum.
A swarm will carry off a clipped queen when they leave.
Now I'm sure she may try to leave the hive and get lost but if there is anyone who has found a swarm with a marked clipped queen in more than 10 yards from their hives I will be impressed

Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:05 Aug 2021, 21:10
by MickBBKA
Not found a swarm with one but did find one of my clipped queens about 30 yards away walking along my allotment fence on her own after she had tried :D

Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:06 Aug 2021, 16:48
by Steve 1972
Bobbysbees wrote: ↑
02 Aug 2021, 20:58
Oh what a corker I heard today on another forum.
A swarm will carry off a clipped queen when they leave.
Now I'm sure she may try to leave the hive and get lost but if there is anyone who has found a swarm with a marked clipped queen in more than 10 yards from their hives I will be impressed
:lol: :lol: :lol: .

Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:08 Aug 2021, 10:01
by Spike
If a queen isn't clipped well she could fly anyway?

Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:08 Aug 2021, 15:46
by Alfred
A swarm in May is worth a load of hay; a swarm in June is worth a silver spoon; a swarm in July isn’t worth a fly.”
Blox.
My mid july capture is doing very nicely thank you.

That one complements an "energy awareness" talk I was once subjected to.
The old busybody was in full finger wagging mode and amongst other classics claimed that devices on standby used MORE power than when being used.
I didnt stay for refreshments.
That would involve firing up the burco boiler which would no doubt have caused a tsunami in Wiveliscombe or somewhere.

Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:08 Aug 2021, 23:44
by Patrick
No tsunamis in Wivvy please chap, that's one of my fishing spots and we've had more than enough rain locally already!

I think the old adage dates from skep beekeeping, which actively used collected swarms as part of the system. Whereas early swarms could being in a useful crop in the same season, a July hived swarm was unlikely to bring in honey that year and would need additional feeding to successfully overwinter. A lot of cottage skeppists could not afford sugar to feed bees, so a late collected swarm was considered a financial liability rather than asset and not worth collecting.

These days the economics are a bit different so whilst losing a swarm in July is a pain in the butt, collecting someone else's can be a late bonus :)

Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:09 Aug 2021, 06:30
by Alfred
Patrick wrote: ↑
08 Aug 2021, 23:44
No tsunamis in Wivvy please chap, that's one of my fishing spots and we've had more than enough rain locally already!
Sister emigrated there a good ten years ago .Haven't heard from her since
Assumed it was El Nino related sorry.

Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:09 Aug 2021, 17:00
by Patrick
She’s probably gone the full Wurzel chap :D

Re: Old wives tales/Bee folk lore

PostPosted:10 Aug 2021, 16:59
by Alfred
Thy make oi laaff Patrick