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Varomor (insect) Fogger Oxalic Acid Vaporiser - Any body used one?

PostPosted:17 Jul 2020, 10:52
by Chrisbarlow
I have seen these quite a lot on YouTube and Facebook, but never seen them for sale in the UK before a blight imported from the Ukraine, has any one used one, what are folks thoughts on it?

The appeal to me over to say something like the gas vap or sublimox is the multi colony treatment load.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAROMOR-FOGGER-OXALIC-ACID-VAPORIZER-TREATMENT-BEE-VARROA-MITES-VAROMORUS/323517287590?hash=item4b53220ca6:g:m54AAOSwNaBc~3Lp

Re: Varomor (insect) Fogger Oxalic Acid Vaporiser - Any body used one?

PostPosted:17 Jul 2020, 11:26
by NigelP
Chris, they don't actually vaporise the oxalic acid as it's in an ethanol solution. It's the micro crystals formed when your sublimated oxalic s condenses in the hive after vaping that cause the damage. They don't seem to work very despite all the video. Check Randy Oliver's varroa control pages, he does not recommend them for control of varroa.
Worth remembering that when you dribble oxalic acid it is only effective if sucrose is present.

Re: Varomor (insect) Fogger Oxalic Acid Vaporiser - Any body used one?

PostPosted:17 Jul 2020, 14:31
by Chrisbarlow
NigelP wrote:
17 Jul 2020, 11:26
Chris, they don't actually vaporise the oxalic acid as it's in an ethanol solution. It's the micro crystals formed when your sublimated oxalic s condenses in the hive after vaping that cause the damage. They don't seem to work very despite all the video. Check Randy Oliver's varroa control pages, he does not recommend them for control of varroa.
Worth remembering that when you dribble oxalic acid it is only effective if sucrose is present.
Fascinating! Really, cheers Nigel

Re: Varomor (insect) Fogger Oxalic Acid Vaporiser - Any body used one?

PostPosted:17 Jul 2020, 14:38
by Chrisbarlow
Do you have a link to his specific page? .... As I can't find it

Re: Varomor (insect) Fogger Oxalic Acid Vaporiser - Any body used one?

PostPosted:17 Jul 2020, 17:27
by NigelP
I'm sure Ive read other bits from him about foggers, but this links ot one bit.
http://scientificbeekeeping.com/oxalic-dribble-tips/

Re: Varomor (insect) Fogger Oxalic Acid Vaporiser - Any body used one?

PostPosted:17 Jul 2020, 22:14
by Chrisbarlow
Thanks Nigel