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Honeybee pests and diseases.
 #14575  by Spike
 30 Aug 2024, 21:43
I checked a hive 2 day.
5 frames of brood, mostly sealed and hardly any bees remaining. so brood cold i think. 2 weeks ago it had plenty of bees.
The queen was there. Looked OK.
Lots of stores and no queencells.
Looks like nearly all the bees have gone very recently. Whats happened?
 #14576  by NigelP
 31 Aug 2024, 07:44
Sorry to hear that. When was the last time your treated for varroa? Or checked varroa levels?
 #14584  by Spike
 08 Sep 2024, 21:33
Not checked this year.
Was about to treat.Now have apiguard on.
 #14585  by NigelP
 09 Sep 2024, 07:56
Unless it's exceptionally warm where you are it's a bit late to use apiguard. It needs 16c average as a minimum day temp. You might consider using something like Apivar that is does not require a minimum temperature.
 #14586  by AdamD
 09 Sep 2024, 09:34
If the colony is small now, there may not be that much heat in the brood box to get the Apiguard working - although the weather has been warm in some parts of the country until now.

Were there signs of deformed wings or deformed bees in cells?

I have had a couple of cases where the colony has reduced in size dramatically around August/Spetember. This is as bee numbers reduce and varroa levels continue to increase causing parasitic mite syndrome. My colonies did survive after treatment and with a donation of a frame of sealed brood from a strong colony to get them going again as a bit of a kick start. I don't recall that the queens were any worse afterwards as a result of the colony collapsing.

I haven't heard much about CCD in the USA recently and I am sure that it was caused by inadequate treatment of varroa at the time. I do remember seeing poor advice to beekeepers about treating for varroa and their practice of open feeding where many hundreds of colonies were being overwintered in the middle of nowhere would have been a great way of transmitting diseases and varroa from bee to bee; a bit like taking the kids to a measles party.

I have noticed that in some colonies the brood pattern can get a bit 'ragged' before varroa treatment and improves afterwards. With Apigaurd and Apilife Var, the queen can go off lay for a few days initially.
 #14599  by Spike
 28 Sep 2024, 22:02
Apivar went on. Queen is laying OK. Colony now better. But small.
Thx for help.